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姓 名: | ××× | 性别: | 女 | 年龄: | 53岁 |
标本名称: | 乳腺肿块 | ||||
简要病史: | 发现右乳腺外上象限肿块半年余 | ||||
肉眼检查: | 灰白黄色组织4x3.5x3.5cm,切开,切面有一肿块,直径2.5cm,无包膜,灰白淡红色,疤痕样浸润性生长,质硬,挤压无液体流出。 |
stevenshen 离线
I have a different opinion. I think it is very reasonable to make a diagnosis of "invasive ductal carcinoma with lobular features'. There are publication and I personally believe that this type of cancer (carcinoma with combined morphologic and immunophenotyical) does exist.
We can see different oppinions in publications for most of the topics.
For above case we all agree the tumors have the nature of ductal origin. We call lobular feature just becases the tumor cells invade the stroma in linear strands with growth pattern like classic lobular ca. We can call mixed ductal and lobular ca for this case, If it was the time when pathologists made dx based on the morhology only. Now we pass over this stage.
In other words, the terminology "Invasive ductal carcinoma with lobular feature" will confuse clinicians and make no any add to patients' treatment. So I still think it is better just to call inv ductal ca.
Of cause, all hospitals or institutes have their own tradition for these diagnosis terms.
For your reference.
Thanks
stevenshen 离线
(主要内容翻译如下:
许多(人)开始报道这种特殊“形态学特征”,我理解其原因有二:
像这例一样,已报道“伴小叶癌特征的浸润性导管癌”的远处转移类型与浸润性小叶癌更相似(多累及骨和胸膜),但其预后与导管癌相似。
其次,如果转移癌呈单个细胞或单行浸润时,这种诊断的识别和报告会进一步提醒病理学家考虑乳腺原发部位。事实上,对于这种病变,一些医院处理前哨淋巴结的方式与“纯的浸润性小叶癌”相似,即:如果最初的淋巴结HE切片阴性,需要深切并作CK染色。__abin)
以下是引用stevenshen在2008-12-6 8:57:00的发言:
I have a different opinion. I think it is very reasonable to make a diagnosis of "invasive ductal carcinoma with lobular features'. There are publication and I personally believe that this type of cancer (carcinoma with combined morphologic and immunophenotyical) does exist. |
以下是引用cqzhao在2008-12-8 21:04:00的发言:
We can see different oppinions in publications for most of the topics. For above case we all agree the tumors have the nature of ductal origin. We call lobular feature just becases the tumor cells invade the stroma in linear strands with growth pattern like classic lobular ca. We can call mixed ductal and lobular ca for this case, If it was the time when pathologists made dx based on the morhology only. Now we pass over this stage. In other words, the terminology "Invasive ductal carcinoma with lobular feature" will confuse clinicians and make no any add to patients' treatment. So I still think it is better just to call inv ductal ca. Of cause, all hospitals or institutes have their own tradition for these diagnosis terms. For your reference. Thanks |
谢谢Dr.cqzhao!
大致翻译如下:
hongpinguo 离线