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Our fellow showed a case last week. I think it is interesting. Send here as a chinese new year gift for some ones interested.

about 50 y women with headach, CSF cytology exam. paitent has no previous malignant history.

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最后诊断:恶性黑色素瘤,结合临床,可能原发于脑膜。

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21 楼    发表于2010-03-07 12:54:00举报|引用
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 I have showed enough photos with classic morphologic features above. You should guess the diagnosis correctly even without further study. Or at least your differential dx should include the true diagnosis.
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22 楼    发表于2010-03-07 12:47:00举报|引用
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以下是引用掌心0164在2010-3-7 10:03:00的发言:

 不会看脑积液,从细胞学基础知识看我首先考虑:感染性病变导致的反应性改变,需要排除一下血液系统的疾病,从目前的图片看好像恶性证据不足。

掌心0164,

Have seen you in the web for a long time. You must have had a good time for your new year.

需要排除一下血液系统的疾病: Blood tests were fine.

感染性病变导致的反应性改变: Are you sure?

What reactive cells can like the cells above?

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23 楼    发表于2010-03-07 12:42:00举报|引用
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以下是引用刘海2270在2010-3-6 22:05:00的发言:

 白血病脑膜转移。

No白血病 history. The blood tests were fine. Do you still think 白血病脑膜转移?
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24 楼    发表于2010-03-07 12:40:00举报|引用
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以下是引用Ki-67在2010-3-3 23:35:00的发言:

 转移性恶性肿瘤

This is a good thought. At least you though it was malignant.
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25 楼    发表于2010-03-07 12:39:00举报|引用
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以下是引用liguoxia71在2010-3-5 20:41:00的发言:

 俺选C。

Why not D or E?
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26 楼    发表于2010-03-07 12:37:00举报|引用
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以下是引用a6621837在2010-2-28 19:19:00的发言:

 please gave us answer.

Is the answer important? I do not think so. The importance is the way why we handle these kinds of cases.
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本帖最后由 于 2010-03-06 11:03:00 编辑  Based on pathologist's suggestion. CSF was taken again.

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28 楼    发表于2010-03-03 11:50:00举报|引用
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 Most people think it is at least suspicious for malignancy. Patient had complete body exam and imaging study and did not find the lesion of other organs. Also blood work was normal. Clinicians asked pathologists if there was some way to help to make the final dx. There was no more CSF left. What is your suggestion?
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29 楼    发表于2010-02-27 02:29:00举报|引用
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 Check and notice very few people gave your answer. Interesting.
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30 楼    发表于2010-02-24 03:06:00举报|引用
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 Some one please tranform the question in floor 7.

Please choose one answer from A, B, C, D, E.  It is easy. Just type one.

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31 楼    发表于2010-02-23 03:55:00举报|引用
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If it is multiple choice question, which one will you pick?

 

The best interpretation of the CSF findings is:

A.  Negative, reactive monocytes
B.  Atypical cells present
C. Suspicious for malignancy
D. Positive for malignant cells, epithelial vs. non-epithelial malignancy
E. Positive for malignant cells, adenocarcinoma
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32 楼    发表于2010-02-23 03:51:00举报|引用
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 Remember the case and come to check. Thank about interpretaion.
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