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这是我在国外的一个网站看到一个病例宫颈液基病例,很有意思;先不提供病史;请大家发挥智慧来猜测和诊断吧;谢谢!

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以下是引用掌心0164在2009-8-5 19:09:00的发言:

 补充病史:

History: LMP and age not provided. Rule out cancer. History of Paget's Disease of the vulva.

末次月经和年龄不清。排除了癌症。既往有外阴 Paget's 病史。

啊?难道是这个病?给个最终诊断结果,我们来学习,谢谢!
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以下是引用法师在2009-8-4 21:40:00的发言:

  巨细胞病毒感染?核的形态有点像(隐约有猫头鹰的眼睛的感觉),但据说巨细胞病毒感染的细胞巨大,这些细胞显得不是那么大。等待学习。

我还真没有见到过巨细胞病毒感染的病例,我想法师手里一定有图片,开一个主题给我们讲讲如何?!
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4 楼    发表于2009-08-08 09:32:00举报|引用
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 本帖最后网站上的诊断是这样的;是原网作者观点;不代表本人和华夏网任何个人观点。请自由引用。(以下内容我不提供翻译;请大家自由引用和翻译——大家一起学专业和英文)

Cytologic diagnosis: Epithelial Cell Abnormalities: Carcinoma, consistent with known clinical history of Paget's disease.

Biopsy diagnosis: Bx of vulva, same day as cytology: Poorly Differentiated Adenocarcinoma with Pagetoid spread. Bx of lower vulva 5 days later: Extramammary Paget's disease and Invasive Adenocarcinoma. Vulvar excision one month later: Infiltrating Poorly Differentiated Adenocarcinoma with overlying Paget's disease

Case provided by: Long Island Jewish Medical Center Lab, New Hyde Park, NY

Etiology:
Paget's disease can be located at various sites including the nipple, eyelid, axilla, perianal region, mons pubis, glans penis, and the vulva. Paget's disease of the vulva is associated with a higher than normal incidence of other malignancies, breast cancer being the most common. Histologically all of the sites are similar; however they seem to have a different morphogenesis. Mammary Paget's disease is almost always associated with intraductal or invasive ductal carcinoma of the breast. It is thought that there is a migration of malignant cells thru both the mammary and lactiferous ducts which result in invasion of the epidermis. Compared to the vulvar type in which 70% of cases have only purely intraepidermal carcinoma with only the remaining 30% having an in situ or invasive adnexal carcinoma.
Clinical Features:
Paget's disease of the vulva has been reported in women ranging from 38-87 years of age with an average age of 67. This disease predominately affects white postmenopausal women. Chief complaints, commonly present for many years, include pruritis, irritation, a burning sensation, and localized discomfort. The most commonly affected site is the labia majora. The lesions are erythematous, eczematous and indurated. They are often ulcerated and bleed easily on contact.
Cytology:
On cytology the cells occur as isolated cells or in small groups. The cells have eccentric, large nuclei and can have one or multiple prominent nucleoli. The amount of cytoplasm can vary and is foamy and vacuolated. Occasionally signet ring forms are present. The characteristic pattern shows cell within cell clusters. Cytologically, it is not possible to distinguish between the cells of Paget's disease and an underlying invasive adenocarcinoma.
Histology:
Histologically the cells of Paget's disease are large and pale, occurring both isolated or in aggregates in the epidermis. Signet ring shapes can be found. The cytoplasm is mucicarmine positive. There may be invasion of the dermis and involvement of the hair follicles, pilosebaceous units, sweat ducts and sweat glands.
Prognosis and Treatment:
The treatment of Paget's disease of the vulva is dependant on the extent of epidermal involvement and whether invasive carcinoma is present. Because the cells have a large horizontal spread into grossly normal appearing skin, there are frequent recurrences. Simple vulvectomy with a wide excision is the treatment of choice. Radiation is of no value because of the diffuse nature of the disease. Since repeated excisions are often not successful, topical chemotherapy, bleomycin and imiquimod, have been attempted with some success. It is rare for intraepithelial Paget's to progress to invasive carcinoma; however, it has been documented. There is a poor prognosis in association with invasive adnexal carcinoma; therefore the recommended treatment when invasive carcinoma is present is radical vulvectomy with bilateral inguinal lymphadenectomy.

References:

1.       Fu, Y. Pathology of the Uterine Cervix, Vagina, and Vulva Second Edition. 2002: 194.

2.       Bibbo, M. Comprehensive Cytopathology Second Edition. 1997: 283.

3.       Atkinson, B., Silverman, J. Atlas of Difficult Diagnoses in Cytopathology. 1998: 149.

4.       Watring, E., Roberts, J., Lagasse, L., Berman, M., Ballon, S., Moore, J., Schlesinger, R. Treatment of Recurrent Paget's disease of the Vulva with Topical Bleomycin. Cancer 41:10-11, 1978.

5.       VanDerWalt, A., VanRooyan, A., Cominos, D. Paget's disease of the Vulva. S. Afr. Medical Journal 51:206-7, 1977.

6.   Hatch, K., Davis, J. Complete Resolution of Paget's Disease of the Vulva with Imiquimod Cream. Journal of the Lower Genital Tract Disease 12(2): 90-4, April 2008

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5 楼    发表于2009-08-08 09:28:00举报|引用
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 与衣原体何异?
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6 楼    发表于2009-08-08 09:20:00举报|引用
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 再来给大家解释一下:巨细胞病毒感染最大的特点是细胞浆内“包涵体”;不是HSV感染的核内“包涵体”。其实看上面的图就明白细胞的核还是好好的,浆内的“包涵体”象“鹰眼”而得名。
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7 楼    发表于2009-08-08 09:16:00举报|引用
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都怪法师兄,说什么“鹰眼”细胞。先给你们欣赏一下在宫颈细胞中什么是真正的“鹰眼”细胞;这个是我发现的唯一一张;不许盗版,我会告诉法官的。
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 小小宫颈大学问啊.太复杂了.这例发何报告恰当呢?
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 确实特殊,有病史就迎刃而解了!学习!
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 细胞来源不明,AGC
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 补充病史:

History: LMP and age not provided. Rule out cancer. History of Paget's Disease of the vulva.

末次月经和年龄不清。排除了癌症。既往有外阴 Paget's 病史。

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14 楼    发表于2009-08-05 13:54:00举报|引用
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 核周空晕,双核细胞,细胞有一定的异型性,考虑病毒感染伴ASC_H
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15 楼    发表于2009-08-04 22:16:00举报|引用
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真是不好意思,我会发ASC-H。

活检之类的还是留给临床了。

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  巨细胞病毒感染?核的形态有点像(隐约有猫头鹰的眼睛的感觉),但据说巨细胞病毒感染的细胞巨大,这些细胞显得不是那么大。等待学习。
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 这个病例对我来说是有点难了.没有病史....假如这是我的病例,我会发一个AGC-N,什么也不说了,余下的交给临床和病检了.

在网上不用担心什么,就给个:腺癌<子宫内膜>.理由:象宫内膜细胞.

我瞎猜的.后面的网友不要受此影响,独立思考为宜.

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 猜腺癌,核大且大小不均,核仁明显。
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 小荷姐姐不要羡慕;我们这边就有那么漂亮的片子;可惜我们没有那么好的采图的设备。第一副图是40X的物镜;后面的都是60X物镜(据说一个60X的物镜要2000-3000美金)。所以国内很少有人用吧,因为我没有听说过。再是大家不管怎么猜都要给我一个理由或者您需要我补充什么呢?
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