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B1757Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)

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We are in 2009 already. I send this easy case for you.

Breast core biopsy:

Fig 1, 2: one area 100x, 200x

Fig 3, 4: the second area 100x, 200x

Fig 5: the third area 100x

What is your interpretation?

  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图1
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图2
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图3
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图4
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图5
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 Before we conclude the above case, I  show you another case.

You diagnosis?


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22 楼    发表于2009-02-12 21:20:00举报|引用
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1. Figure5 is duct carcinoma in situ, of course. Morphology and immunostain results( smooth muscle myosin heavy chain is expressed by  myoepthelial cells) support DCIS.

2. Figure 1-4 are invasive components  with both p63 and  smooth muscle myosin heavy chain negative

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23 楼    发表于2009-02-12 11:22:00举报|引用
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 First area: the small tumor nests are invasive ca. Both p63 and smooth muscle myosin heavy chain are negative.

The second area: some large tumor nests are negative for p63 and positive for SMMHC. Should they are invasive or insitu?

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24 楼    发表于2009-01-28 20:44:00举报|引用
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IDC & DCIS

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25 楼    发表于2009-01-28 20:41:00举报|引用
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 It's ok. We can practice English as well. Most of friends can read English in fact.
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26 楼    发表于2009-01-28 19:00:00举报|引用
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 I still believe DCIS is present, as showed by SMA.

p63 may be nagative for myoepithelial cells in some cases.

That is, SMA is most sensitive in all markers.

Sorry this PC has wrong in typing Chinese.

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27 楼    发表于2009-01-25 23:17:00举报|引用
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 invasive duct carcinoma
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 P63 stains

Fig 1 first area

Fig 2 second area with SMMHC positive-looking.

Fig 3 second area. I repeat P63 stain

Now I want to see your interpretation.

I chose some cases, sent here, and tried to demonstrate some points for each case.

For this case, we are sure that invasive carcinoma is present. Now the question is if DCIS is present or all are invasive carcinoma.

You guys can think about it.

 


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29 楼    发表于2009-01-23 15:13:00举报|引用
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 只看到了原位癌,没有看到浸润的依据,如果没有免疫组化的话。确实是好病例!
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30 楼    发表于2009-01-21 23:21:00举报|引用
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 Agree with abin. I'm looking forward to the final answer...

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31 楼    发表于2009-01-20 21:40:00举报|引用
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 IDC & DCIS
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32 楼    发表于2009-01-20 08:32:00举报|引用
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 invasive duct carcinoma
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33 楼    发表于2009-01-19 15:17:00举报|引用
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  invasive duct carcinoma?
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34 楼    发表于2009-01-19 12:45:00举报|引用
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以下是引用Elizabeth在2009-1-11 12:47:00的发言:

 

See your name in several topics. Are you in China or other countries? Of cause you do not need to answer the question if you do not like to.
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 IHC: smooth muscle myosin heavy chain

Fisrt Fig. the area for first several figs of H&E

Second Fig. the area for the last photo of H&E.

I am a little surprise to read the response. Now what is your final diagnosis for this case? 


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36 楼    发表于2009-01-11 21:12:00举报|引用
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 呵呵,又猜不透赵老师的心思了,可否给一点方向呢?
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38 楼    发表于2009-01-11 10:36:00举报|引用
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 IHC confirmed no lobular lesion (invasive or LCIS) present in this case. In fact it is not the point I sent the case here.
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以下是引用月新在2009-1-6 10:19:00的发言:

 乳腺小叶原位癌。有无浸润?

The dense stroma aound the LCIS is worrisome.

High power might be helpful.

LCIS rule out invasive lobular carcinoma or invasiv tubulolobular carcinoma.

Thanks. Looking forward to hearing the final answer.

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40 楼    发表于2009-01-07 19:23:00举报|引用
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 Happy New Year Dr.zhao, Thank you for sharing interesting  breast cases.It's very  nice to learn your cases.

I think the case has both LCIS and DCIS, invasive lobular carcinoma can not be excluded.  Looking forward for the your explanation and immunostaining results. 

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