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B1757Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)

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We are in 2009 already. I send this easy case for you.

Breast core biopsy:

Fig 1, 2: one area 100x, 200x

Fig 3, 4: the second area 100x, 200x

Fig 5: the third area 100x

What is your interpretation?

  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图1
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图2
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图3
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图4
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  • Invasive ductal ca look as DCIS-the importance of myoepithelial marker (cqz-10)图5
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标签:DCIS 乳腺浸润性导管癌
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45 楼    发表于2016-03-14 21:11:38举报|引用
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 这可能就是所谓的膨胀性浸润

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4 楼    发表于2009-02-28 12:08:00举报|引用
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 Hilson JB, Schnitt SJ, Collins LC.

Phenotypic alterations in ductal carcinoma in situ-associated myoepithelial cells: biologic and diagnostic implications.

Am J Surg Pathol. 2009 Feb;33(2):227-32.

Department of Pathology, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02215, USA.

Recent molecular studies have indicated that ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS)-associated myoepithelial cells (MECs) show differences from MECs in normal breast tissue. Such alterations may influence the progression of DCIS to invasive cancer. The purpose of this study was to investigate further phenotypic alterations in DCIS-associated MECs. Paraffin sections of 101 cases of DCIS (56 without and 45 with associated invasive carcinoma) were immunostained for 7 MEC markers: smooth muscle actin, smooth muscle myosin heavy chain (SMMHC), calponin, p63, cytokeratin (CK) 5/6, CD10, and p75. In each case, the distribution and intensity of staining for each marker in DCIS-associated MECs was compared with that in MECs surrounding normal ductal-lobular structures on the same slide. In 85 cases (84.2%), DCIS-associated MECs showed decreased expression of one or more MEC markers when compared with normal MECs. The proportion of cases that showed reduced expression was 76.5% for SMMHC, 34.0% for CD10, 30.2% for CK5/6, 17.4% for calponin, 12.6% for p63, 4.2% for p75, and 1% for smooth muscle actin. Reduced MEC expression of SMMHC was significantly more frequent in high grade than in non-high-grade DCIS (84.8% vs. 61.5% of cases, P=0.01). We conclude that DCIS-associated MECs show immunophenotypic differences from MECs surrounding normal mammary ductal-lobular structures. The biologic significance of this remains to be determined. However, these results indicate that the sensitivity of some MEC markers is lower in DCIS-associated MECs than in normal MECs. This observation should be taken into consideration when selecting MEC markers to help distinguish in situ from invasive breast carcinomas.

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What lesson do we learn from this case?

1. Large tumor nests can be invasive carcinoma. In other words the invasive ca can look like DCIS. This is very important in the breat core bx.

2. If you are not sure, please always do the myoepithelial stains.

3. The stains of some markers can be reduced or negative in DCIS. It is better to do two markers together. We often use p63 and SMMHC.

4. SMA is most sensitive marker. However its specificity is low. Sometimes it is difficult to interpretate. See above phoots. We seldom use it.

Ok, this it. Thanks, cz

I paste here abstract, a very good new paper about myoepithelial cells from Dr Schnitt Harvard group. If you are breast pathologists you should know Dr. Schnitt who is an excellent breast pathologist. This paper was just published in Feb. 2009 in American Journal of surgical Pathology (Am J Surg Path). Am J Surg Path is the best surgical pathology journal.

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 SMA stains

feel sorry to take too long for this case. Let us complete it today.

First case:

First area: both p63 and smooth muscle myosin heavy chain (SMMHC) are negative. All the tumor nests are invasive carcinoma.

The second area: smmhc is positive and p63 is negative. Smooth muscle actin is positive surrounding the large tumor nests. In addition, the morphologic features are like DCIS. So several large tumor nests are DCIS. In fact there are also some invasive components in the second area.


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8 楼    发表于2009-02-26 20:04:00举报|引用
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You will find Elizabeth is a very kind lady, when I suddenly appear in front of you someday .

Kidding too.

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9 楼    发表于2009-02-26 16:10:00举报|引用
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I just think English is a very useful tool .

In fact my English is poor, but I think I should do my best to learn it.

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以下是引用Elizabeth在2009-2-25 17:15:00的发言:

 I don't think so. English is a very useful tool by which we communicate  with others! I do not think it is enough just can read English paper. You can not publish paeper in Chinese in internation journal.

Ok, you are a agressive or motivated girl or lady.Kidding.

If 5% pathologists in China can publish their original papers in the international journals, there will be a lot of....... 

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11 楼    发表于2009-02-25 17:21:00举报|引用
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 学习病理不懂英文有一定的困难,这是事实。没有办法,谁让咱们发展慢。如果年龄大了,不想学了,也没有问题,你有什么需要,咱们网上雷锋多的很,大家可以翻译。
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12 楼    发表于2009-02-25 17:15:00举报|引用
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 I don't think so. English is a very useful tool by which we communicate  with others! I do not think it is enough just can read English paper. You can not publish paeper in Chinese in internation journal.
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13 楼    发表于2009-02-25 11:47:00举报|引用
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本帖最后由 于 2009-02-25 11:47:00 编辑  Agree with above. It is enough if you can read some english papers. You can be a good pathologist in china even though you do not know English. 如果让美国大学生都必须通过汉语六级,我感觉美国经济很快就会落下来。Even though most of American students do not learn Chinese, American economic has fallen down already. I like your talk.
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14 楼    发表于2009-02-23 21:56:00举报|引用
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 p63怎么在癌巢中表达?

说说我对英语的看法:我不主张每个中国人都把英语学得很精,因为那样会浪费很多时间,人的精力是有限的。如果不是迫不得已,我是不会学英语的。现在我看老师们的英文帖子不是太费力,我认为这就够了。如果让美国大学生都必须通过汉语六级,我感觉美国经济很快就会落下来。

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15 楼    发表于2009-02-22 12:25:00举报|引用
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  I am interested in your cases very much!  thank you.
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16 楼    发表于2009-02-22 09:21:00举报|引用
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 I will take a photo for SMA stain for the first case next week.
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本帖最后由 于 2009-02-22 09:20:00 编辑

 This is P63 stain for the second case. You can appreciate the positive internal control. Smooth muscle myosin actin stain is negative also.

Clearly the second case is pure invasive ductal carcinoma.


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以下是引用Elizabeth在2009-2-17 8:29:00的发言:

 I consider invasive duct carcinoma, however, immunostaining of myoepithelial markers  should be done.

Good thought
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19 楼    发表于2009-02-17 08:29:00举报|引用
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 I consider invasive duct carcinoma, however, immunostaining of myoepithelial markers  should be done.
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 invasive  ductal carcinoma
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