Above discussion is very good.
The bottom line is that Pap test is screening test. Generally CIN2/3
detection rate is 60-80% for women with HSIL Pap, 10-30% for women with LSIL Pap
with positive HR HPV testing, 20-50% for women with ASC-H and positive HR HPV
testing5-15% for women with ASC-US and positive HR-HPV testing.
There are several reasons why no CIN2/3 lesion is identified in HSIL Pap. a)
Overcall Pap b) the small high grade lesion disappears due to the regression
3)gynecologists fail to pick the lesion even though CIN2/3 lesion is
present.
We cannot evaluate the consistent rate by only comparing Pap tests and
histologic follow up results. If 100% HSIL women have CIN2/3 in histology, it
means that you may miss many HSIL Pap smears. For above case you can call ASC-H
if you fell unconfortable to call HSIL. It is useful if you can test HRHPV from
the residual fluid. If it is negative the chance of high grade lesion is low.
The women should have colposcopy anyway. ASCCP guidline:For ASC-H if biopsy is
negative, Pap follow-up 6-12 month or HRHPV testing in 12 month. For HSIL, if
biopsy is negative, diagnostic exsional procedure is suggested. As pathologists
we know our limitaion. So we should leave some space for us and do not need to
commit ourselve so much. It is very bad call if some one calls this case is
negative and even if this women has not cervical lesion.
I heard that technicians release the Pap tests in many hospitals even large
hospitals. It is amazing. Hope every one knows that diagnosis of Pap is the most
difficult and challenge for all pathologists or
cytopathologists.
英文的是同一个老师观点
Above discussion is very good.
The bottom line is that Pap test is screening test. Generally CIN2/3
detection rate is 60-80% for women with HSIL Pap, 10-30% for women with LSIL Pap
with positive HR HPV testing, 20-50% for women with ASC-H and positive HR HPV
testing5-15% for women with ASC-US and positive HR-HPV testing.
There are several reasons why no CIN2/3 lesion is identified in HSIL Pap. a)
Overcall Pap b) the small high grade lesion disappears due to the regression
3)gynecologists fail to pick the lesion even though CIN2/3 lesion is
present.
We cannot evaluate the consistent rate by only comparing Pap tests and
histologic follow up results. If 100% HSIL women have CIN2/3 in histology, it
means that you may miss many HSIL Pap smears. For above case you can call ASC-H
if you fell unconfortable to call HSIL. It is useful if you can test HRHPV from
the residual fluid. If it is negative the chance of high grade lesion is low.
The women should have colposcopy anyway. ASCCP guidline:For ASC-H if biopsy is
negative, Pap follow-up 6-12 month or HRHPV testing in 12 month. For HSIL, if
biopsy is negative, diagnostic exsional procedure is suggested. As pathologists
we know our limitaion. So we should leave some space for us and do not need to
commit ourselve so much. It is very bad call if some one calls this case is
negative and even if this women has not cervical lesion.
I heard that technicians release the Pap tests in many hospitals even large
hospitals. It is amazing. Hope every one knows that diagnosis of Pap is the most
difficult and challenge for all pathologists or
cytopathologists.
英文的是同一个老师观点