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1 楼    发表于2008-11-03 20:47:00举报|引用
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 腺上皮的问题AGC?

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2 楼    发表于2008-11-03 20:53:00举报|引用
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 AGC.

These cells may be endometrial origin.

Endometrial and endocervical sampling suggested.

Interested to know the follow-up result.

Thnak Quanzi for the interesting case. See your name often in this website.

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3 楼    发表于2008-11-03 22:28:00举报|引用
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以下是引用cqzhao在2008-11-3 20:53:00的发言:

 AGC.

These cells may be endometrial origin.

Endometrial and endocervical sampling suggested.

Interested to know the follow-up result.

Thnak Quanzi for the interesting case. See your name often in this website.

感谢赵老师的回帖和对我的关注!

欢迎更多的老师发表意见,我会贴出最后跟踪结果

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4 楼    发表于2008-11-04 08:29:00举报|引用
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 感谢全子老师展示的好病例!
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6 楼    发表于2008-11-04 17:11:00举报|引用
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 prefer to suspicios all
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7 楼    发表于2008-11-04 17:33:00举报|引用
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 So many clousters of atypical glandular cells. Consider adenocarcinoma. The atypical cells show papillary architectues. In addition to endometrial ca, metastatic carcinoma, such as ovarian seroud carcinoma, should be considered also. History and clincal information are important.
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8 楼    发表于2008-11-04 18:02:00举报|引用
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 腺癌。

报告就是AGC,腺癌不除外。

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以下是引用cqzhao在2008-11-4 17:33:00的发言:

 So many clousters of atypical glandular cells. Consider adenocarcinoma. The atypical cells show papillary architectues. In addition to endometrial ca, metastatic carcinoma, such as ovarian seroud carcinoma, should be considered also. History and clincal information are important.

谢谢赵老师!我要问的就是直接报腺癌行不行,你不说腺癌俺就不死心
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10 楼    发表于2008-11-04 19:22:00举报|引用
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 我就报AGC 建议活检
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11 楼    发表于2008-11-04 20:11:00举报|引用
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就这一例,虽然有三维结构,但是细胞团边缘非常光滑,腺样结构多见,异型性明显,我个人倾向宫颈来源的腺癌,但是心里没有底
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12 楼    发表于2008-11-05 04:11:00举报|引用
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Hi, Quanzi,

I am on Pap service this week, 50 Pap/day. I just released a case and like to share with you and others.

The patient (60-65Y) had routine test and no history. The pap smears show many clusters as above. I think it is like endometrial adenocarcinoma. I tell you how I handle the case today.

1. I showed the case to another pathologist, who concurred my diagnosis.

2. I called the gynecologist to know the pt had no more history or clinical symptom. I discussed the case with him and told him the patient may have endometrial carcinoma and need to have endometrial and endocervical sampling. He said he will call the patient and have the procedures done as soon as possible.

3. I released the case:

My report:

Diagnosis line:

Highly atypical glandular cell, suspicious for adenocarcinoma (it is not in the TBS, who care).

Comment in my report:

The Pap smear shows clusters of highly atypical glandular cells, suspicious for adenocarcinoma, endometrial origin. Endocervical and endometrial tissue sampling should be done to confirm the diagnosis. I discussed the case with Dr. xxxx at 11:00 Am, 11/4/2008 (important to document).

 

In this way I feel good about the case and am not worried about the final dx. Remember that Pap test is a screening test. We do not need to push ourselves too much to make the exact dx. We should leave some space for our dx.

 

I truly think your case may be an adenocarcinoma. If you feel comfortable you can report malignancy. I am not very against if some one call your case is adenocarcinoma. There is no difference in the clinical management of the patient if you call carcinoma (endocervical or endometrial) or if you call AGC, favor neoplastic or suspicious for malignancy. The bottom line is that the patient should get endocervical and endometrial tissue sampling. As pathologists we should always think what physicians should do if I make this diagnosis. You will fell bad if you call carcinoma and it turns out to be a benign or hyperplasia case. You always win if you call AGC .....

This is my philosophy about Pap tests. There are often some unexpected findings.

Thank for your case,

cz

 

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13 楼    发表于2008-11-05 14:55:00举报|引用
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 感谢赵老师的谆谆教导,要是报告,我也觉得AGC,高度可疑够了,但是讨论的时候这是我的倾向

向您学习,感谢您的精彩病例和分享您的处理报告方式,谢谢!

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15 楼    发表于2008-11-05 21:40:00举报|引用
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 更多图片请看妇科板块的病例

http://www.ipathology.cn/forum/forum_display.asp?keyno=104593

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16 楼    发表于2008-11-06 02:39:00举报|引用
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 太多的腺样上皮细胞巢,核有些异型性,就要想到腺癌了.
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17 楼    发表于2008-11-06 08:50:00举报|引用
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 再看看细胞学,既有三维结构也有平铺细胞团,有单个有成团,有腺样、有乳头,细胞形态有扁平、立方、有钉突、有透明,如此丰富的形态!对照组织学,是不是很吻合?
还有一点此例细胞片首先在低倍镜下看到出血和癌性素质,考虑的时候就可以往恶性的靠一靠了

目前病人没有任何症状
大家有什么体会继续讨论:handshake

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18 楼    发表于2008-11-06 08:58:00举报|引用
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Son of a hard-wide! Once again grateful! ! !
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19 楼    发表于2008-11-06 09:11:00举报|引用
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20 楼    发表于2008-11-06 09:12:00举报|引用
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Pap smear is adenocarcinoma, invasive endocervical adenocarcinoma or endometrial adeno.  Not endocervical adenocarcinoma in situ.
AGC without any further specification or comment is a under diagnosis for this pap.
Biopsy shows adenocarcinoma, clear cell type?  Patient needs endometrial biopsy too.  If the adeno is from endocervix, not from endometrium, any DES exposure in uterus?
Nice case. Thanks.
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