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B2230不典型小叶增生累及乳头状瘤(cqz-27)

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This is my one today's consult cases

about 60 y/f with breast lesion 

What is your diagnosis? 

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1 楼    发表于2009-11-24 05:56:00举报|引用
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 If it was a breast core biopsy, patient should have excisional bx.

This was excisional biopsy specimen. So follow up with mammogram is propriate.

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2 楼    发表于2009-11-03 03:23:00举报|引用
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 F1, E-cadherin

F2. P-120

F3. dual stain 200x

F4. dual stain 400x

So it is atypical lobular hyperplasia involving papilloma. I signed out this case as atypical papilloma with comment.

Important points for this case:

1. ALH can involve many different lesions, such as sclerosing adenosis, fibroadenoma, radial scar, papilloma......

2. Atypical papilloma can have different meaning.

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本帖最后由 于 2009-11-03 03:15:00 编辑  IHC for the papillary lesion

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4 楼    发表于2009-10-28 03:00:00举报|引用
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 1. It is 残存导管.

2. It is difficult to separate LCIS from ALH for some cases even though there are good calssification or definition. For this case it is ALH not LCIS

3.  Lobular neoplasia (ALH and LCIS) is only an indicator of the risk for more severe lesions. In the USA most people think if lobular neoplasia is present in the core bx, the patients should have excisional biopsy.

No need to treat lobular neoplasia.

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5 楼    发表于2009-10-24 19:57:00举报|引用
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 If you do not know how to interpretate the stains, please check this topic

http://www.ipathology.com.cn/forum/forum_display.asp?classcode=129&keyno=111923&pageno=2

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6 楼    发表于2009-10-24 19:40:00举报|引用
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 Most netfriends are interested to the cancer cases, but not some uncertained cases.

Thank  青青子矜 for above reasonable analysis. Based on her instruction, I paste here dual IHC for p120 and E-cadherin for the lesions (floor 29), areas close to the large papilloma.

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本帖最后由 于 2009-10-24 19:47:00 编辑  Dual stain p120 and E-cad

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8 楼    发表于2009-10-13 18:36:00举报|引用
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以下是引用天山望月在2009-10-13 10:58:00的发言:

以下是引用笃行者在2009-9-5 22:22:00的发言:

 我个人认为,还是导管内乳头状肿瘤为主,肌上皮增生明显(当然还需要IHC证实)。总之,良性病变。

结合免疫组化,支持还是导管内乳头状肿瘤为主,肌上皮增生明显。

Forget the papilloma now. What is the diagnosis for the photos in floor 29?
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以下是引用abin在2009-10-7 11:29:00的发言:

 p63示双层结构存在。未见肌上皮增生。

我个人仍然认为是腺病,伴导管内乳头状瘤形成(趋势)及导管上皮增生(UDH)。似乎没有其它特殊病变?

Are you sure?
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10 楼    发表于2009-10-13 10:21:00举报|引用
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 what diagnosis will you made for these areas close to the papilloma?
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本帖最后由 于 2009-10-13 10:17:00 编辑  Some areas close to the papilloma

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 Recently I am very busy with other things. Sorry I did not follow up this case on time. Anyway I will continue to work with your guys for this case.

1. 腺肌上皮瘤 is a differential dx. However the IHC did not support the dx

2. Now most of people think it is introductal papilloma. It is true it is introductal papilloma.

3. I would not show you a classic introductal papilloma case. So it must have some other lession related to the papilloma. Please check the photos more carefully, especially in high power.

4. In order to make it easy for you. I will paste some photos with areas close to the papilloma.

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13 楼    发表于2009-09-08 12:54:00举报|引用
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 Interested to ses above differential dx. This is a consult case. The primary pathologist (from a local hospital) thought it maight be a DCIS (papillary type). Some general pathologists in the usa are not good////.

One of our breast path fellow reviewed the case and thought it may be denomyoepithelioma as most of you. 

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 P63 stain

Now do you still think it is adenomyoepitheliona?


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本帖最后由 于 2009-09-08 01:08:00 编辑  200x p63

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 Lunch time, Check this caes. Thank Dr. Wang's translation. Now there are a lot of pathologists with high level of English in China. This is a good sign.

似纤毛又非似纤毛: these kinds of structures are very common in columnar cell changes, papilloma, FCC et al. You will notice them often when you pay attention to. Forget these structures. They are not important for the dx of this case.

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17 楼    发表于2009-09-04 22:20:00举报|引用
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 Accepted Dr. 197's suggestion. I am sending the larger photos. My microscope and camera are new and cost almost US$25,000. However I seldom took good photos. There are too many function I never know.

Humans are more important than eqiupments. Mao once said that victory of a war depends on humans, but not the weapons.

Ok, I need to start to read my today's breast cases now.

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19 楼    发表于2009-09-04 22:07:00举报|引用
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 Thank above discussion. I especially appreciate the detailed description of 乳腺腺肌上皮瘤by Dr. Zhang. Of cause it does not mean that I agree or disagree the diagnosis. Others can still have your oppinion based on the photos.
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