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放疗后乳房(cutaneous)高级别血管肉瘤(cqz-23)

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60 y/breast lesion under skin. This is biopsy.

Your differential dx.

What IHC will you do if you think you need to do some IHC?

60岁女性,乳腺皮下病变,活检。

你的鉴别诊断?如果需要IHC,你要做哪些标记物?

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 A few words for post radiation angiosarcona (AS)

1. The interval between radiation and AS is from 3 y to 12 y, mostly within 6 y.

2. Cutaneous presentation is more often than parenchynal AS.

3. Women with primary AS  presentd with metastasis more often those with postradiaton AS.

4. Overall survival rates were no significantly different between primary and postradiation AS.

5. More cases are lymphatic origin in my impression. Correct me if it is wrong.

6. Histologic features of postradiation AS may be different from primary AS. You can find some papers to read for details if you are interested. I do not think it is very  important for our dx. We need to consider the lesions and need some IHC.

Thank all of you for the discussion.

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2 楼    发表于2009-07-26 08:43:00举报|引用
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 Just feel interested about ki67 proliferative index in high grade angiosarcoma. I did a ki67 stain for the purpose of education (not charge patient due to no meaning for dx). You can see the tumors are diffusely positive for ki67. I also asked the lab to do a D2-40 stain for education. We will not charge patients if the stains are for education. Also we will not report these results in the pathology reports.

D2-40 stain is positive for lymphatic endothelieum.

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本帖最后由 于 2009-07-26 08:30:00 编辑  Ki67 and D2-40 stains

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本帖最后由 于 2009-07-26 08:22:00 编辑

 This biopsy speciment was diagnosed as high grade angiosarcoma and the pt had mastectomy. Paste here some photos from mastecetomy. I want to show you the high grade angiosarcoma often mixed with low grade component.

The cytologic features of the tumor cells between low grade and high grade solide areas are similar. 


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以下是引用cici在2009-7-24 21:04:00的发言:

 浆细胞标记是阴性吗?

Yes.
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以下是引用96298在2009-7-21 0:19:00的发言:

 only two :我一般选CK7,CD31。但当CK7+,CD31-时可能还需CD34,F8

Base on your order the the stains were performed. Do u need more IHC?

F1 AE1/AE3

F2 CD31

F3 CD34


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以下是引用96298在2009-7-19 0:28:00的发言:

 病史首先考虑上皮样血管肉瘤,除外癌复发。

Good consideration. If you can order only two immunostains, what do you want to order? 
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以下是引用wq_9603在2009-7-13 7:14:00的发言:

 图2、3中红细胞浸润

有无提示意义?

Good observation.

Clearly you can appreciate RBC in fig 2 and 3, plus pt's hx of breast ca with segmental mastectomy, radiation, chemotherapy. Also remember the time perioid is about six years (2003-2009).

Of cause we need IHC for this case. However, what lesion will be your first differential dx?

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 Thank all of you for your analysis and interpretation.
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以下是引用笃行者在2009-7-14 20:04:00的发言:

 病史有点意外,不知是不是同侧,按理应该首先考虑乳腺癌复发或转移,但还是要注意和淋巴造血系统肿瘤以及恶黑鉴别。

The same side
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 The pt had surgery for breast ca  in 2003.

(患者2003年行乳腺癌手术。abin译)

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本帖最后由 于 2009-07-14 21:03:00 编辑

 Good analysis.

It is unfair. I should tell you the history.

The patient had invasive ductal carcinoma with segmental mastectomy. She then received radiation and chemotherapy.

Now what are your differential dx and IHC?

abin译:

分析得好。

不公平,我应该为你们提供病史。

患者有浸润性导管癌并做过乳腺区段切除,然后接收了放疗和化疗。

现在你的鉴别诊断是IHC?

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