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My cytology fellow showed me a case early this week. A 36-year-old man right thyroid nodule FNA. What do you think?
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1 楼    发表于2009-05-02 11:20:00举报|引用
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 乳头状癌。
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2 楼    发表于2009-05-02 22:39:00举报|引用
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 平铺排列腺上皮,图3,4见核沟,图4中央似见核内假包含体。支持甲状腺乳头状癌。请问陈博士,图5中央双核大细胞是何细胞?
            
            
          
    
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3 楼    发表于2009-05-02 23:00:00举报|引用
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 乳头状癌
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4 楼    发表于2009-05-02 23:18:00举报|引用
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 细胞密集,核浆比增高,核染色质椒盐状,可见核沟、包涵体,考虑为乳头状癌,不过还是结合一下临床病史。
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5 楼    发表于2009-05-03 03:47:00举报|引用
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 OK. It seems that the predominant opinion is papillary thyroid carcinoma. That was my first impression. But my fellow raised another differential diagnosis, which I think is very good. Pay attention to photo no. 5, yes, someone did ask me what are those cells, I need to ask you guys to have more discussion.
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 背景有中性粒,大细胞可能是组织细胞莫非是亚甲炎?
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 NOTHING SERIOUS BUT ONLY STUDY SEVERELY
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 早期桥本合并乳头状癌?
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9 楼    发表于2009-05-03 22:55:00举报|引用
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 具有核沟核内假包涵体的甲状腺肿物,如果HE染色图5细胞外物质为红染的话,考虑髓样癌。
            
          
    
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10 楼    发表于2009-05-04 01:32:00举报|引用
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 Finally, someone brought this important differential diagnosis of medullary carcinoma!!!

 This patient's serum Calcitonin is very high according to the endocrinologist. Now, what you need to do?

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11 楼    发表于2009-05-04 09:17:00举报|引用
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谢谢陈博士!

经提醒再次看图,瘤细胞丰富,松散或粘附排列,核偏位有点浆细胞样,见多核瘤细胞,降钙素很高,支持髓样癌的诊断。IHC:CgA、Syn、CD56、TTF-1、CK18、Tg、Tm 有帮助。最后一图背景中的小球刚果红染色可能阳性。

鉴别诊断:

1、需与其它神经内分泌肿瘤鉴别:如甲状腺副节瘤,转移的神经内分泌癌,结合病史可鉴别。

2、嗜酸细胞腺瘤。

3、甲状腺内的甲状旁腺肿瘤。

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12 楼    发表于2009-05-04 13:08:00举报|引用
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 如果还有穿刺涂片,染刚果红或查降钙素。阳性的话,报髓样癌,否则建议冰冻。
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13 楼    发表于2009-05-06 09:44:00举报|引用
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 简翻译如下:This case was signed out by one of our pathologists as "Thyroid neoplasm, favor papillary thyroid carcinoma", then the clinician called her and mentioned the high serum Calcitonin.本例由一位病理医师签发的病理报告为甲状腺肿瘤,可能是乳头状癌。临床医生打电话说病人的血清降钙素高, Then the pathologist did a cell block and did immunostains for CEA and calcitonin and amended the report to "thyroid neoplasm, favor medullary carcinoma".然后病理医生又用了细胞块做免疫组化显示:CEA和降钙素阳性,由道欠,重新发的病理报告:甲状腺肿瘤,可能是髓样癌。 I learned a great deal from this case.因为有这样的病史,我认真复习了本例。 Medullary thyroid carcinoma has a nickname "melanoma of the thyroid",髓样癌又平被戏称为甲状腺的恶黑, because it can mimic many thyroid neoplasm. 因为它的形态可以类似于许多的其它肿瘤。The general rule I learned from my cytopathology fellowship is that if a thyroid neoplasm looks not perfect for papillary carcinoma, follicular neoplasm, or Hurthle cell neoplasm, think about medullary carcinoma.我从细胞同行那学习的经验是这样的,如果一个甲状腺肿瘤不完全象乳头癌,不完全象滤泡性肿瘤,也不完全象嗜酸细胞性肿瘤,这个时候,可能就是髓样癌。

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 This case was signed out by one of our pathologists as "Thyroid neoplasm, favor papillary thyroid carcinoma", then the clinician called her and mentioned the high serum Calcitonin. Then the pathologist did a cell block and did immunostains for CEA and calcitonin and amended the report to "thyroid neoplasm, favor medullary carcinoma".

 I learned a great deal from this case. Medullary thyroid carcinoma has a nickname "melanoma of the thyroid", because it can mimic many thyroid neoplasm. The general rule I learned from my cytopathology fellowship is that if a thyroid neoplasm looks not perfect for papillary carcinoma, follicular neoplasm, or Hurthle cell neoplasm, think about medullary carcinoma.

Now, I list a good table of differential diagnosis of papillary carcinoma (PTC) vs. medullary carcinoma (MTC) from Dr. Kini's book of thyroid FNA

                                                                MTC                                                               PTC

Cellularity                                      Highly cellular                                                Highly cellular

Cells                                           Cells mostly in dispersed pattern               Cells mostly in groups, syncytial

                                                     rarely in syncytial pattern                               pattern, rarely dispersed pattern

Nucleus                                     Eccentric, salt- and -pepper chromatin         Eccentric to central, can have salt

                                                     binucleation frequent, nuclear pseudo-        -pepper chromatin, binucleation

                                                    inclusion can be seen                                       Not a feature, pseudo-inclusion

                                                                                                                                   is always seen

Cytoplasm                                Scant to variable, pale to dense                      Variable, pale clear or vacuolated

Background                              Colloid absent, amyloid present                     can have colloid, amyloid absent

Immunoprofile                         Calcitonin +, Thyroglobulin -                            Calcitonin-, thyroglobulin +

Hopefully this discussion will be interesting to you

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15 楼    发表于2009-05-06 22:19:00举报|引用
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Thank you so much 月新 for the translation. Just to follow-up on this case. the patient had surgery last Friday and I have the surgical pathology. It is medullary carcinoma, but has some unusual features, like psammoma bodies and focal follicular differentiation. I am posting one photo of the histology and one photo of the immunostain for calcitonin.

This case also raises the possibility of a combined papillary and medullary carcinoma, but the thyroglobulin stain is completely negative. Thus, at the end, I feel it is better to classify the whole tumor as medullary carcinoma.

Hope this case illustrates that medullary carcinoma can have many "faces".

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