共2页/29条首页上一页12下一页尾页
回复:29 阅读:3964
急!肺穿刺细胞学

njmuhsl 离线

帖子:70
粉蓝豆:167
经验:258
注册时间:2008-11-28
加关注  |  发消息
楼主 发表于 2008-12-12 10:18|举报|关注(0)
浏览排序[ 顺序 逆序 楼主 支持 精彩 ]  快捷回复
姓    名: ××× 性别:  女 年龄:  62岁
标本名称:  肺细针穿刺组织
简要病史:  体检发现左肺占位,考虑周围型肺癌
肉眼检查:  
够癌么?什么癌?
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图1
    图1
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图2
    图2
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图3
    图3
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图4
    图4
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图5
    图5
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图6
    图6
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图7
    图7
  • 急!肺穿刺细胞学图8
    图8
标签:
0
signature
学习病理
×参考诊断
非小细胞癌

zchzmf 离线

帖子:701
粉蓝豆:17
经验:864
注册时间:2007-03-15
加关注  |  发消息
21 楼    发表于2009-03-09 16:22:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 考虑鳞癌
0
回复

陈隆文博士 离线

帖子:180
粉蓝豆:4
经验:182
注册时间:2008-08-27
加关注  |  发消息
22 楼    发表于2009-03-09 21:44:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 I think that this case demonstrates a coomon problem of some cases posted by our chinese pathologist. As some of you posted, the pictures are not clear, either because the slides quality is poor or the picture quality is poor, in any instance, I would not "kill myself" to try to classify this as either adenocarcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. It is basically a non-small cell carcinoma. I always remind our residents and fellows, cytology is not 万能的。It has it's limitation. In this case, the quality of the pictures is the limitation. When there is limitation, I don't give a definitive diagnosis or subclassify the tumor. If the cliniian is ok with non-small cell carcinoma and patient's tumor is surgically removable, this diagnosis serves it's purpose. If it is not surgically removable and the clinician really needs subclassification to use different chemo-therapeutic agents to treat, then they need to get another good sample and good quality slides for me to subclassify.
0
回复

土豆2008 离线

帖子:855
粉蓝豆:381
经验:919
注册时间:2009-01-15
加关注  |  发消息
23 楼    发表于2009-03-10 12:08:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 每次看完陈博士的留言就象上课一样,受益匪浅啊!
0
回复

有福不在忙 离线

帖子:2161
粉蓝豆:42
经验:3448
注册时间:2008-11-22
加关注  |  发消息
24 楼    发表于2009-03-10 23:08:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 时间关系,不逐句翻译了,陈博士的主要意思是:细胞学是有局限性的,很多情况下我们不能具体分类,也没有必要。如果病人准备做手术,诊断恶性也就够了,如果不能手术而需要放、化疗,可以做免疫组化进一步诊断或者取活检。对本例来说,诊断非小细胞恶性肿瘤已经可以了。不当之处,敬请指正。
0
回复
signature
有福不在忙

xb3263 离线

帖子:510
粉蓝豆:3
经验:605
注册时间:2009-01-05
加关注  |  发消息
25 楼    发表于2009-03-14 23:29:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 非小细胞癌(倾向于腺癌)。
0
回复

houfang 离线

帖子:116
粉蓝豆:0
经验:120
注册时间:2008-07-04
加关注  |  发消息
26 楼    发表于2009-04-04 19:18:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 腺癌
0
回复

weisky 离线

帖子:157
粉蓝豆:257
经验:187
注册时间:2009-04-08
加关注  |  发消息
27 楼    发表于2009-04-09 23:36:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 
 非小细胞癌(倾向于腺癌)。

0
回复

chinaroc 离线

帖子:1168
粉蓝豆:924
经验:1343
注册时间:2006-11-01
加关注  |  发消息
28 楼    发表于2009-04-10 09:02:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
以下是引用陈隆文博士在2009-3-9 21:44:00的发言:

 I think that this case demonstrates a coomon problem of some cases posted by our chinese pathologist. As some of you posted, the pictures are not clear, either because the slides quality is poor or the picture quality is poor, in any instance, I would not "kill myself" to try to classify this as either adenocarcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. It is basically a non-small cell carcinoma. I always remind our residents and fellows, cytology is not 万能的。It has it's limitation. In this case, the quality of the pictures is the limitation. When there is limitation, I don't give a definitive diagnosis or subclassify the tumor. If the cliniian is ok with non-small cell carcinoma and patient's tumor is surgically removable, this diagnosis serves it's purpose. If it is not surgically removable and the clinician really needs subclassification to use different chemo-therapeutic agents to treat, then they need to get another good sample and good quality slides for me to subclassify.

很多人对于细胞学涂片的处理方法还满足于血液室的思维,细胞是干片,还喜欢采用瑞氏染色,本身细胞数量很有限,所以造成诊断困难。陈博士的话值得大家深入思考,细胞学如何才能提高诊断的准确性,如何才能正确把握诊断尺度?
0
回复
signature
用心做事、真情做人!

jani 离线

帖子:1707
粉蓝豆:46
经验:1808
注册时间:2009-03-21
加关注  |  发消息
29 楼    发表于2009-04-29 22:56:00举报|引用
返回顶部 | 快捷回复
 是癌  但是不好分型
0
回复
signature
只有做你不会做的事 才能做会所有的事
回复:29 阅读:3964
共2页/29条首页上一页12下一页尾页
【免责声明】讨论内容仅作学术交流之用,不作为诊疗依据,由此而引起的法律问题作者及本站不承担任何责任。
快速回复
进入高级回复
您最多可输入10000个汉字,按 "Ctrl" + "Enter" 直接发送
搜索回复/乘电梯 ×
按内容
按会员
乘电梯
合作伙伴
友情链接