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What are they in a conventional Pap of 42 years

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Work a long day and feel tired. Send you the most beautiful photos I once took.

It was my case of Pap when I was cyto fellow in the University of Southern California. I did not know what they were until my attending cytopathologist told me.

I am sure your guys know. Just for fun.

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 Life is beautiful. Is it?
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 It is your decision.
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以下是引用cqzhao在2008-12-10 12:57:00的发言:

以下是引用hay在2008-12-7 11:24:00的发言:

合胞体滋养层细胞 (syncytial trophoblast)?
漂亮!

    呵呵继续.hay的回复是两个一半=一个,赵老师对吧

These are two multinucleated giant cells called syncytiotrophoblasts. Most book mentioned they can have nuclei to to 50. In fact this cell here may have almost 100 nuclei. I did not find better cells than these two cells.

They detached from placenta so they can have tail. One cell looks like glove.

They can be confused with multinucleated histiocytes. Histiocytes are common in Pap smears, but syncytiotrophoblasts are rare in Pap smears. Syncytiotrophoblasts show nuclei concentrated in the center of the cells (see above photos again); histiocytes are different. They  may indicate early abortion if they occur in Pap during pregnancy. Of cause I think women will not have abortin in most case. You can mention in your report to ask physicins to pay attention.

This patient was a pregnant women with 7 months (may be).

Thanks,

cz

Suppose these cells are not present in pregncny. I do not know when they are present often. I guess the early pregnancy. Please let me know if you find the answer.
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以下是引用hay在2008-12-7 11:24:00的发言:

合胞体滋养层细胞 (syncytial trophoblast)?
漂亮!

    呵呵继续.hay的回复是两个一半=一个,赵老师对吧

This afternoon I gave fellows two hours' lectures. I feel good to finish the duty. I went to the Gym and had 30 min swim. Life is beautiful.

Come here and become more happy to see that your guys had correct dx already.

These are two multinucleated giant cells called syncytiotrophoblasts. Most book mentioned they can have nuclei to to 50. In fact this cell here may have almost 100 nuclei. I did not find better cells than these two cells.

They detached from placenta so they can have tail. One cell looks like glove.

They can be confused with multinucleated histiocytes. Histiocytes are common in Pap smears, but syncytio are rare in Pap smears. Syncytiotrophoblasts show nuclei concentrated in the center of the cells (see above photos again); histiocytes are different. They  may indicate early abortion if they occur in Pap during pregnancy. Of cause I think women will not have abortin in most case. You can mention in your report to ask physicins to pay attention.

This patient was a pregnant women with 7 months (may be).

Thanks,

cz

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以下是引用小荷在2008-12-6 17:57:00的发言:

 哇!漂亮!这副图应该发布到"病理学的艺术"专栏,风的影子,快来看!

大胆发言:多核巨嗜细胞

You are right about half. Righ about one cell with many nuclei.

 What type? Think more. Do you see this kind of multinucleated macrophages?

More than 30 people saw the photos and only Xiaohe had interpretation. If every one give a different guess, I am sure one of the guesses will be right.

I will not tell you until some one writes the correct answer.

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